Ivory
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:48 pm
Some may have noticed the grinding of a ton of ivory in Times Square recently. The message it sent was chilling, as indeed it was intended to be. The elephants from which the ivory was obtained were not immortal, and like all of us eventually will be, they were already dead and unable to contribute to the continuation of their species. But many think an outright ban on the sale of any ivory will nonetheless contribute to the health of the species. And so NY has what appears to be a near ban on its resale.
I have a small stash of ivory parts I purchased from David Warther, a noted reseller of pre-ban ivory, and respected expert on the laws associated with its purchase and resale. I wrote him asking whether I can resell the material I received from him. His answer:
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John,
Pre-ban ivory can and does sell in the US without license or permit - no license or permit is required nor are any available because none are needed. It is illegal to sell pre-ban ivory in NY or NJ but it is legal in all other 48 states. I cannot provide a certificate of pre-act origin for ivory you have bought in the past but I do provide it when people order it and request the certificate. The certificate is not needed for re-sale of the item.
You can sell your items so long as they are for US buyers and not to NY or NJ.
Sincerely ,
David Warther
2561 Crestview Dr. NW
Dover , Ohio
44622
Phone : 330-343-1865
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I did get a certificate with each order, but there is but one signed, embossed certificate, and many parts. And the certificates amount to simply one civilian who owns an embossing machine making an assertion to another.
There are many statements rampant on the Information Highway, some quite exaggerated. Here is a reasonable, expert statement dated 2009 by David Warther that is very complete, though probably somewhat out of date with respect to the latest legal efforts to inhibit the sale of elephant ivory. Contains some information about the useability of all ivory, including that from non-elephant sources, that is useful for guitar making, even though it is addressed to pool cue makers.
http://www.cuemakers.org/aboutivory.php
I have a small stash of ivory parts I purchased from David Warther, a noted reseller of pre-ban ivory, and respected expert on the laws associated with its purchase and resale. I wrote him asking whether I can resell the material I received from him. His answer:
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John,
Pre-ban ivory can and does sell in the US without license or permit - no license or permit is required nor are any available because none are needed. It is illegal to sell pre-ban ivory in NY or NJ but it is legal in all other 48 states. I cannot provide a certificate of pre-act origin for ivory you have bought in the past but I do provide it when people order it and request the certificate. The certificate is not needed for re-sale of the item.
You can sell your items so long as they are for US buyers and not to NY or NJ.
Sincerely ,
David Warther
2561 Crestview Dr. NW
Dover , Ohio
44622
Phone : 330-343-1865
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I did get a certificate with each order, but there is but one signed, embossed certificate, and many parts. And the certificates amount to simply one civilian who owns an embossing machine making an assertion to another.
There are many statements rampant on the Information Highway, some quite exaggerated. Here is a reasonable, expert statement dated 2009 by David Warther that is very complete, though probably somewhat out of date with respect to the latest legal efforts to inhibit the sale of elephant ivory. Contains some information about the useability of all ivory, including that from non-elephant sources, that is useful for guitar making, even though it is addressed to pool cue makers.
http://www.cuemakers.org/aboutivory.php