Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

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Dave Bagwill
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Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

Post by Dave Bagwill » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:16 pm

Any ideas why Batson chose the addition of these 3 little chunks of wood?
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Are they at all necessary?
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ken cierp
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Re: Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

Post by ken cierp » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:10 pm

My guess is that they had a few collapse from the downward pressure of the string so reinforcement was added. These guitars are more like "f" hold jazz instruments which are pretty thick and "bubbled" under the movable bridge. While string tension on a standard flat top is pulling up on the bridge -- on guitars with a tail piece the strings are pushing downward. --- Just my guess.

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Re: Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

Post by Ken Hundley » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:31 pm

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Re: Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

Post by Dave Bagwill » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:46 am

I thought it might be, when I went looking for it I also saw those little reinforcements and wondered about them.
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Re: Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

Post by GuitarWhisperer » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:23 pm

Every time I've ever seen these in construction education media they've been called "cleats" and were described as being used to reinforce the top joint to help prevent it from separating along the seam. My thoughts are that if the joint is good, cleats shouldn't be necessary.

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Re: Top joint reinforcement on Batson?

Post by Dave Bagwill » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:27 pm

I agree.
We do, however, reinforce the back joint, though even there I think I've heard that some accomplished builders don't do that even.
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