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Vertas small scraper plane

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:12 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Ever used a scraper plane? Got any opinions on them? I have not used one, but looking at something like this makes one tempting. Please save me from a foolish purchase! :-)

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.a ... ,230,41182

Re: Vertas small scraper plane

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:52 pm
by Woodyok
HI Dave
If you have a plane use a plane. If you have a scraper use a scraper. No need for a$129 single function tool. Unless you just want to have it. In which case but it now!!! LOL

Re: Vertas small scraper plane

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:58 pm
by Robert Hosmer
The scraper plane offers important advantages over scraping freehand.
During cutting, the angle is maintained by the plane instead of by your hand. Compare it to sharpening a bevel with the aid of a jig vs. freehand.
An even larger advantage is the sole. The sole ensures flatter surfaces, whereas scraping freehand with a card scraper can tend to follow existing peaks and valleys rather than eliminate them. In my experience, this is most noticeable when scraping "curly"-figured wood.

The cabinet scraper (Stanley No.80 and knockoffs) is a type of scraper plane. Since it is more economical than a "real" scraper plane, it's use is more prevalent.
I still use it in certain applications, but it has two disadvantages when compared to the typical scraper plane.
1. Very short sole, so not as well-suited for maintaining flatness.
2. Still requires two-handed operation, whereas a block-style plane can be used with one hand.

Another option is to take an existing plane and convert it.
I haven't seen any inserts to convert a block plane, but if you have a No. 4 (or larger) you can get the benefits that the larger scraper planes offer over the cabinet scraper without the $150+ price tag.
I have two planes that have been outfitted with the insert offered by Lee Valley, and they work great.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.a ... 10&p=32635

And as always, for those confident in their understanding of plane design, a scraper plane is as easily made as any other shop-made plane.

Re: Vertas small scraper plane

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:41 pm
by ken cierp
Took me a minute or two (just kidding) to learn how to sharpen my scrapers but I have all sorts of different shapes sizes made from old saw blades if you got the bucks buy Vertas, personally I can get by without it.

Re: Vertas small scraper plane

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:47 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Good info, thanks fellas.