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Pinless bridge question

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 12:30 pm
by burmester
Hi

I'm building my first acoustic guitar and came across the pinless bridge design - I really like the clean look of them ;)
This one is from Michael Greenfield. Just stunning!
But regarding the design I am a bit puzzled. The strings exit through the holes in the bridge and to the saddle. In the picture, it looks like the strings are coming out of the hole, parallel to the top, maybe at a slight angle. I maybe wrong. But, isn't causing a lot of stress in the rear area of the bridge where the strings exits.
Or, are the stings actually coming in from the ball end to the saddle in one straight line - clearing the bridge? Any suggestions? ;)
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Re: Pinless bridge question

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 12:42 pm
by Carl Dickinson
I've done it that way several times. Never had one split off the top of the drilled holes yet.
Check out this thread, https://acousticguitarconstructionforum ... lot#p29210. It details slotting the holes to ease putting the strings on.

Re: Pinless bridge question

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 2:22 pm
by John Parchem
I saw some stress simulations, that showed there was not that much difference at the tail side of bridge pinned vs pin less. What is happening is that the bridge is rotating based on torque on the saddle. That force the same in pin-less and pinned rotates the bridge trying to peal it off the top.

So that is a great bridge design.

Re: Pinless bridge question

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 2:40 pm
by burmester
Thanks for the link Carl, very informative.

John: sure it is a great bridge design - I'm just not sure if the string is coming out of the hole/pocket pushing up against the hole in the bridge, does it make sense?

Re: Pinless bridge question

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 3:07 pm
by burmester
like this sketch
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Re: Pinless bridge question

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 4:08 pm
by John Parchem
I missed that. I do not think that is would be an issue. Pinned bridge sort of have the same issue when the string angles to the saddle out of the bridge pin holes.

Re: Pinless bridge question

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 12:49 pm
by Herman
The bridges I made in the past, pin bridges and pinless ones, are all in good shape. The only two that lifted were those who did not fit perfectly to the top's dome in the first place. (Too flat for the dome and pressed in place during glueing.) So my advise is: get that fitting right, first thing.
Herman