Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

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Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by MarkAndrew1 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:50 pm

I'm getting ready to brace the top on my guitar. I plan
on using a 28' LMI brace radii (?) sander to radius the X braces.
Now, problem is, I don't have a 28' dish to sit the top in
when I glue the bracing on so what do I do? Suck it up and
buy another dish (I already have a 15' dish) or is there
another method I could use?

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Re: Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by Dave Bagwill » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:56 pm

A number of us use this method, and it works very well:

http://www.kennethmichaelguitars.com/contourtool.html

If I understood your question....
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Re: Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by MarkAndrew1 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:12 pm

deadedith wrote:A number of us use this method, and it works very well:

http://www.kennethmichaelguitars.com/contourtool.html

If I understood your question....
Okay, that...........is brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!!!

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Re: Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by dave d » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:28 pm

MarkAndrew1 wrote:
deadedith wrote:A number of us use this method, and it works very well:

http://www.kennethmichaelguitars.com/contourtool.html

If I understood your question....
Okay, that...........is brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!!!
It's the only method I've used to date, and works great.

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Re: Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by Tim Benware » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:43 pm

I glue mine to a flat surface and let the radius on the x brace spring it back, same method Martin uses.
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Re: Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by ken cierp » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:10 am

Tim is correct Martin's fixture is almost flat but so are the braces, a mere 52' radius and some (16's and below) are flat. They do not however, radius the braces to 28' and flatten them out --- that is a simply an Internet myth. Sorry Tim, I totally disagree with this practice --and in fact the myth got start because of bad information which is the incorrect convensional wisdom that Martin uses a 28' radius on any part of the guitar (rim or bracing) they never have and are very proud that they build flat top guitars.
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Re: Do I need a 28' radius dish or is there another way?

Post by MarkAndrew1 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:08 am

So, Ken.....Just to be clear, Martin puts a 52' radius on the
X braces? The internet is full of misinformation because I've
seen multiple places where people say it's 28'; But this is my
fact vetting forum!!!!!! hahah I'm trying to build my dread
as close to Martin specs as I can.....

Thank you!

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