Acoustic Guitar Construction

I've communicated a few more times with Joe Woodworker. I appreciate that he gave me his view.

On 9/30/2012 4:23 PM, Dave Bagwill wrote:
> I know it is not your call (referring to shipping rates); but this way I lose out on a great product I could use, you lose out on a number of sales, and a number of luthiers I deal with will not know how the product worked for me.
>
> So we just live with it, I guess. Ended up ordering stuff that top notch luthier Howard Klepper uses - got it on amazon 6 bucks for a pound and $3 shipping - Weldwood plastic resin glue. Not exactly what I wanted but it does work.
>
> Frustrating for both of us.


Joe wrote back:

Yeah... uber frustrating that I run my business fairly but get screwed by companies who charge too much for the product just so they can look like they have great shipping prices. If I sold it by the pound (and I once did), I could make a killing at $13 delivered.

And he also wrote:
Hi Dave,

You must be pretty far away from Maryland then. UPS rates are awful for small orders but very affordable for larger ones. I charge what UPS charges me (plus $,.80) for the box. I wish there was a better way. I could lower shipping if I raised my prices on everything else. Honestly, that's not a way that I want to do business.

Joe

Best I can figure "UCAT" is "Dap Plastic Resin" repackaged -- you think? I've seen episodes of Norm Abrams and Scott McDonald using the Dap product.

I wonder - you may just be right. I had not even thought about that.
Still to hear from the BSI people, btw.

deadedith wrote:I've communicated a few more times with Joe Woodworker. I appreciate that he gave me his view.

On 9/30/2012 4:23 PM, Dave Bagwill wrote:
> I know it is not your call (referring to shipping rates); but this way I lose out on a great product I could use, you lose out on a number of sales, and a number of luthiers I deal with will not know how the product worked for me.
>
> So we just live with it, I guess. Ended up ordering stuff that top notch luthier Howard Klepper uses - got it on amazon 6 bucks for a pound and $3 shipping - Weldwood plastic resin glue. Not exactly what I wanted but it does work.
>
> Frustrating for both of us.


Joe wrote back:

Yeah... uber frustrating that I run my business fairly but get screwed by companies who charge too much for the product just so they can look like they have great shipping prices. If I sold it by the pound (and I once did), I could make a killing at $13 delivered.

And he also wrote:
Hi Dave,

You must be pretty far away from Maryland then. UPS rates are awful for small orders but very affordable for larger ones. I charge what UPS charges me (plus $,.80) for the box. I wish there was a better way. I could lower shipping if I raised my prices on everything else. Honestly, that's not a way that I want to do business.

Joe

How big is the product. Couldn't it fit in Flat Rate USPS box?

I received this from BSI a few minutes ago:

David,

Our 30 minute Slow-Cure is used by several guitar manufacterers. You
can add up to 10% 91-99% isopropyl alcohol or heat it to 90 degrees F to
thin it out so it's easier to spread. Our Finsh-Cure is already
formulated thin which makes it nice for laminating, but has a little
less strength compared to Slow-Cure. It is also more expensive. Both
the epoxies should be cured in an environment of at least 70 degrees F.

Charlee Smith
Bob Smith Industries



Tim - in answer to your question, it's a 5 lb. container, coming from Maryland.

I'm wondering if anyone knows of an "advanced" epoxy that adheres well to both metal and wood. Open time is not especially important, but I've found in general the longer it is, the stronger the bond and I have plenty of time to wait for it to set.