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Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:51 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Just protection. I've had a chip or two in the past - from being clumsy - and this surgical tubing prevents any such mishaps.

Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:53 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Tom worked on the soundport today and did a heckuva good job. Also now protected. I believe in safe soundporting. :-)

Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:09 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Installed the CF rods, and that went well enough that I felt confident we could shave the top braces quite a bit more. Now the top and rim together are very strong but very light. We will glue on the top and back next week.

Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:09 am
by Herman
Looking gooood!

Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:02 am
by ken cierp
What is the function of the CF rods?

Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:54 am
by Dave Bagwill
Seems to depend on who you talk to.

Re: Tom's KMG L-00

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:57 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Sounded like a smart a**, I did - I meant to follow up with excerpts from some earlier posts on this forum. One place was this thread: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2243&p=20273&hilit=carbon#p20273.
Also somewhere there is positive feedback from Mike Doolin to a letter I sent him concerning this subject, who uses the cf, and Bob Matthews, I think. I'll do more looking around and find those links.

edit to add link to Bob's picture: download/file.php?id=2698

edit: Here's the thread that addresses it directly - interestingly, both Ken and John P. had, at that time, a positive remark to make about the cf rods directed to the endblock.
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1622&hilit=doolin&start=0

And an excerpt from Doolin's letter:
"I did use graphite tubes in the Jazz Harp Guitar (also) -
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But there I wasn’t concerned so much about rotation of the neck block as I was about compression of the top, since the instrument has a tailpiece. The string tension translates to compressive force between the neck block and tail block, and the tubes directly bear that compressive force.

All of this is to say, that I think graphite tubes bracing the neck block is a great idea, but I do think they work better when they’re inset deeply into the neck block. When they’re just butted up against it, there isn’t as much preventing the block from rotating forward. This is especially true if the tubes go to the waist, since they’re bracing at about a 45 degree angle to the force being applied. When they go to the lower bout, they’re more in line with the force. I used rectangular bars because they’re easier to glue tightly into a notch cut in the neck block.

But in general, I think _some_ sort of neck block bracing is a good idea, even for non-cutaway guitars. And for cutaway guitars, it’s an even better idea."