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Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:43 pm
by Kevin in California
WHOO HOO.
Looking like a guitar now.

Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:54 pm
by John Parchem
Before gluing the back, with the top glued on I touched up the rims with both a 10 ft radius dish and a radiused sanding bar.

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Double check the back fit

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Also before gluing the back on I decided to profile the fret board. Mainly so I can draw out the sound hole profile with the back off.

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Cleaned up the back and glued on the label and then glued on the back.

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Starting to look like a guitar

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Still early but it looks like this will be a pretty responsive guitar with an active back. The first three peaks are the Air, Top and Back resonances. Looking past the three peaks there are a bunch of resonant peaks to contribute to a rich voice. An active back working with the top helps make a bunch of those peaks.

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Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:01 pm
by John Parchem
Well, well well ... A year and a half later and I picked up this guitar again after a major set back. I am not sure how I did it but some how the ledge in the neck to accept the top was not deep enough on one side. I noticed after binding the top that the bindings was below the top near the neck. While sanding the top in that area I sanded the top way to thin. I cut out that top put it aside and build a steel string.

To illustrate the issue, here is a picture how the new top fit on the neck. I am not sure how I missed this :?

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Given that I needed a new top I decide to try a few new features in my falcate build and some for just the classical falcate build.

The first change I made is a two sided mold for the two falcate braces. I had lamination issues when I used just the side mold and a combination of tape and clamps. I used my CNC machine to cut out the molds. When I cut the brace profile with a 1/4" end mill it is sized perfectly my use three laminates to make a falcate braces. Instead of using my iron to bend the laminates close, used a blanket to heat the laminates for about 12 minutes and used my new molds to shape them.

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I let them sit overnight, used epoxy and and re-clamped them.

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In all of my previous falcate classicals I sliced the bridge blanks into three slices and laminated two carbon fiber sheets into the layup. On this bridge I sliced the bridge blank into only 2 slices, one being a 2 mm top cap that I laminated with only one CF sheet with the bottom part of the bridge. I also added a 1 mm bridge patch and a CF cloth to the brace side of the top.

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With the bridge patch I need to cut out a recess

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I used my Otter Router Table

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I epoxied all the braces on the top (see the first top if you want more pictures)

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Sorry I thought I took pictures but I glued the body to the top with the top down on the solera that allowed me to set the neck angle properly.

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Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:20 pm
by John Parchem
With the replacement top complete I need to glue it top the guitar. Normally I glue on the top first and then set the angle when I glue on the back with the top resting in the solera. I thought about putting the top down in the solera putting glue on the rims and basically glue the rest on the guitar to the top. My fear as I thought it through was to assure that top was glued to the neck extension as I could not put any clamping there as the back was in the way. Instead I created long clamp caul with the neck angle built in. (straight on the body and 2 mm slope to the nut location.

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I am not sure that this was better than using the solera, but with this caul I was able to set the neck and make sure the top was aligned with the body.

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I do not have pictures but from the one above I put cam clamps all around.

I was happy with the glue-up and went ahead and bound the top.

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Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:47 pm
by John Parchem
My kids got me a Proxxon Table Saw Fet a few years ago at Christmas but I was a little slow to make this jig with it.
I build a sled and mocked up what it could be. I will use a 2" diameter blade so I made the sled on 1/4" birch plywood.

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I made sure the sides were square to the blade.

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I found a 2" .5 mm kerf proxxen NO 28 011 (with no set) that was perfect for a slot, .020". I made a test cut and it seemed perfect.

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I used the pin from my LMI fretting jig and set it so that it was the correct height for the guide.

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Here is the complete jig. It is sized for my LMI fretting jigs.

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I should have made this awhile ago as I had all the parts. Made quick work of the job.

align the fret board on the template
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cut the frets advancing the fretboard and template
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Nice!
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I like for the bass side of the fretboard to 1 mm thinner than the treble. This helps compensate for the action difference bass to treble. I tape a couple purfling strips (.5 mm + .5mm) along the bass side and run it through my thickness sander until I have sanded across the fret board. I do it slowly as I really should be using a sanding board for the fretboard to sit on.

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I used my bandsaw and plane to profile the fret board.

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Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:15 pm
by John Parchem
With all of the components ready to finish the guitar. I went back to finishing the bridge. I made the bridge earlier in this build on my CNC machine. Before I went any farther I needed to drill the string holes in the bridge. I had a "friend" who once glued a bridge on before drilling the string holes :roll: As mentioned earlier in this build I changed the layup of my contemporary classical removing the bottom strip of CF weave. (I put this layer on the braced side of the top under a bridge patch.) This allows me to drill the string holes at a slight angle without running in the CF. Not a big deal but stringing up the guitars will be easier with the sloped string holes (more like a classical bridge).

I used my straight string hole guide to just mark the hole placement on the bridge.

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Then I used a block with a 5° angle. With the hold positions marked I used my drill press to drill the holes.

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I like to use Mitchell Abrasives cord of the right size to sand the hole and remove the edge on each side. Again makes it easier to string the guitar.

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I radiused the bottom on a 25' convex radius dish.

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I probably checked my calculations, assumptions and measured 10 times to place the bridge.

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With the bridge placed I was able to start French polishing the top.

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Ready to glue on the fretboard so that I can finish carving the neck.

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Re: Starting a new BRW falcate braced falcate classical guitar

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:24 pm
by John Parchem
The neck was rough carved. I used knifes, chisels, rasps and sand paper to clean up the neck.

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I could have waited but I want to see where I was with body resonances so I glued on the bridge.

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amazingly the resonances are very close to the first top. More on this later.

I pounded in some frets

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Here is where I am now french polishing the rest of the guitar. I used system 3 silvertip for the pore fill on the back and neck.

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