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Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:52 pm
by Dave Bagwill
Very nice, Ron.

Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:14 pm
by ken cierp
Good looking guitar!!

I don't see an L1 plan at LMII, the L0 is listed which we already have.

Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:56 pm
by mike-p
very nice! Did you use the l-0 plan (same body shape as the L1) and simply put x-bracing in instead of the ladder/H bracing? Was the plan 13 fret joint? The older, smaller L shape is really nice but I imagine not as loud as the later version I'm doing?

Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:33 pm
by Ron Belanger
It is the L-O plan and I used an X brace. The plan calls for 12 frets to the body, but the customer wanted 13 and I like the look of the 13 as well, particularly for that short scale length. As far as sound goes, this guitar has got great resonance and volume and is well balanced low to high with very good mids.

Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:41 pm
by mike-p
Nice, sounds like you're professional. Did you mark out the x bracing yourself? I imagine you could keep the 12 fret bridge and soundhole positioning and extend the scale to get a 13 fret like the Santa Cruz h13 where they follow a 12fret short scale plan, lengthen the scale and use a 13 fret joint. Pretty neat. What x angle did you use? Two finger braces and two tone bars?

Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:24 am
by Ron Belanger
I based the bracing on the Gibson 1929 L-1 bracing. The first thing I do when starting a new model is deciding on the scale length, then I determined the saddle position for the 24.25 inch scale length and adjust the arms, or shift the x to cover the corners of the bridge. The x angle is about 97 degrees. I used a single tone bar and single finger braces. Light gauge strings only.

Re: moving from 14 to 12 fret neck joint?

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:25 am
by mike-p
Thanks for the info, looks from the picture like you used a considerably heavier shoulder brace, must be very responsive with the single tone bar and real easy on the fingers with the short scale.