Altering the frequencies of the plates

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Herman
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Altering the frequencies of the plates

Post by Herman » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:26 am

On my latest guitars I measure the top and back frequencies. On some of them the top is quite close to the back resonance. What to do in such a situation?

Second thing: When a top resonance (with the top attached to the sides) is a bit too high, lets say 220 Hz. And I want it to get it below 200HZ, What do you do to lower that response?

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Re: Altering the frequencies of the plates

Post by John Parchem » Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:10 pm

Some nylon string guitars are built with the top and back on top of each other. It could lead to a wolf note at the frequency as the low impedance quickly drains the energy in the sting. It is easier to lower a resonance than raise one.

For top not yet finish, thin the top or the parameter. Reach a hand in and lower the braces. Add some mass to the top, can try with blue tac putty under the bridge.

One way to separate the top and the back is lower the top if there is room.

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Re: Altering the frequencies of the plates

Post by Herman » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:05 am

Thanks mate, I already thought that, but it is always nice to have a second view.
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Re: Altering the frequencies of the plates

Post by Herman » Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:39 am

I have this Triple 0, for 2 years now and it won't sell. Maybe because it developed a nasty wolf note on the G#. Before other guitars of mine sometimes had uneven notes, but this one was different and really unpleasant.
I measured the three basic resonances: Body 103 Hz, Top 209 Hz and the back 215 Hz. They all gathered around that G#.
And I think that is why the guitar performed its way and customers were reluctant.

Since I am peddling for two years I decided to dig in. The top needed to change.
The top finish was removed with paint remover. I took down the 2 inches of the lower bout edge to app. 0.9".
Guess what: It did not change the resonances at all. DANG!!

After that I taped a 15 gram (0,5 oz) ebony block to the bridge plate, and......................
Hallelujah, the resonances changed!! Body 105 Hz, Top 190 Hz, Back 220 Hz.

And even better: The guitar sounds great now. Nothing of a wolf note anywhere, clear rings and a very appealing overall sound.
It is not a very pretty solution, but I will glue that ebony block to the top. Someone is going to be happy with this guitar, even it is not pristine.
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Re: Altering the frequencies of the plates

Post by Dave Bagwill » Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:08 pm

Good for you, H! A very good solution that will make some player very happy, and taught us something also.
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