The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

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The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

Post by Dave Bagwill » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:21 am

I finally ran across the vid where Robbie briefly mentions his reasons for the 3" distance from rim to peak on lower bout braces.

https://youtu.be/7ClFeZ769BE?t=2m23s
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Re: The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

Post by Herman » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:33 pm

Nice vid. But "reasons" for making the distance exactly 3"? I don't see that here. I do it this way also, but only because the plans tell me to do so. I did not made them an other distance. So I can't tell this is the best way to do so. Maybe others can.
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Post by Dave Bagwill » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:37 pm

I agree that 'exactly' is not needed. But I have seen a number of pix where the peak was only 1" or so from the rim - and I'm pretty sure that that is not optimal.
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Re: The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

Post by ken cierp » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:18 pm

And there's Roger Siminoff -- he has written that the peaks do absolutely nothing.

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Re: The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

Post by Jim Ebert » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:25 pm

So in Robbie's course he is building an OM, how would a larger or smaller format guitar effect this measurement? It seems as though a smaller or larger body with shorter or longer braces would effect where the node would be and therefore the peak placement on the brace. Any thoughts?
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Re: The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

Post by ken cierp » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:42 pm

I have a few prints/drawings that were made during reconstruction projects

The node measurements are:

"D" Herringbone 3"

000 12th fret 3.625"

J200 3.5"

J185 2"

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Re: The 'three inch rule' for scallop peaks - O'Brien

Post by Dave Bagwill » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:50 pm

Good info.
Somewhere on the UMGF, John Arnold listed all the measurements he took of a 1935 D-18, what he considered to be a very great sounding guitar. I will try to find those this evening and post it if I can find it.
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