Gore thicknessing method with a non rectangular plate

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John Parchem
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Gore thicknessing method with a non rectangular plate

Post by John Parchem » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:30 pm

I am starting a new flamenco blanca guitar with spanish cypress back and sides. The Gore plate thicknessing method using tap tones as described The Book requires evenly thicknessed rectangular plates. Often times with nice back and side sets the plates are non rectangular taking advantage of the fact that the upper bout is narrower than the lower bout. My spanish cypress set for a new flamenco guitar has trapezoidal plates that were too small to square up. So I went ahead and did the work required to allow me to get my thickness targets using deflection measurements.

For this process I needed two good representative rectangular samples of the back plates for a long grain stiffness value and a cross grain stiffness measurement. As you could see in the first photo. I was able to create a square section of one of the plates. Also after taking a long grain deflection I will have enough length to cut of a rectangular section of the same plate.

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Previously I have built a deflection jig that allows me to take deflection measurements on a variety of span lengths. So first off I measured the long grain deflection under a measured load.

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Next I cut off a 50 mm or so rectangular section off of the plate. Set up the deflection jig and measured the cross grain deflection

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The last additional bit of information I needed was the density of the wood. To determine the density of the wood I needed the mass of the cross grain sample.

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The last step was to modify my previously spreadsheet for calculating target thickness using tap frequencies to use deflection based young's modulus calculations. Luckily I had a handy spreadsheet from the Modal Tuning with Trevor Gore class I took at Robbie's place to calculate the long and cross grain young's modulus for the plate. The book has the equations needed to make these calculations. I substituted the deflection based El and Ec calculations for the frequency calculations in my original spreadsheet and set the Elc to an average value. This term has little effect in the overall calculation. With all the required inputs I got what looks like a good thickness target for the plate. This target is very close to my frequency based target from my first flamenco guitar using spanish cypress. So it seems like the method worked well.

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Just for reference here is the spreadsheet for my tap baised thickness calculation for the top plates on this guitar.

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