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 Post subject: Zero Glide nut
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:25 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:51 pm 
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I think it is a cool idea as a drop in zero fret. I think the system has a range of fret heights that can be used. Probably most who use it will end up with a better setup than if they filed their own slots. Personally I like to drop the 2 treble string a bit below where a zero fret would have them making an open F easier, I like the bass string to be a touch higher than a zero fret less chance of buzz.

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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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I like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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Adjustable!

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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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Looks really nice and clean. Love to try one, but they're thirty bucks a pop. I can see why manufacturers might not want to use them, a regular nut can be made to perform similarly and that's about the cheapest part on a guitar that you can see from the outside. But thirty bucks ain't much over the life of nice guitar made without cutting factory corners like a factory needs to.

Comments about nut material (bone, ivory, tusq, etc.,) seem to circulate around the notion that the nut material makes a difference acoustically. Implication for me is, if that is true, that putting on a capo ought to make the guitar sound different seeing as the nut is now a metal fret. At least I haven't encountered such an argument.

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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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I installed one on my Gretsch Tennessee Rose. It has two advantage: The guitar goes back in tune after using the Bigsby (yest I know that there are things that can be done to help that). The other is that the open string have the same tone as a fretted note.


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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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I bought one about a year ago and installed it on a "storebought" guitar. It worked well; it lowered the action near the nut and didn't produce any buzzing.

My experience with the Zero Glide nut led me to use a zero fret on the last two guitars that I've built. Certainly a bone nut can be cut to the same level (and, as John P. notes, a bone nut can be tailored string-to-string), but the zero fret has the virtue of simplicity while separating the functions of transverse and vertical string location. I'll likely continue using a zero fret in the future. The Zero Glide nut is a simple way to try the technique on an already-built instrument.


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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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I think a 'zero glide' nut will function as a zero fret only as long as it holds the strings a fret's height off the fingerboard. And I can't in my limited experience see how the zero glide fret can be levelled with the other frets as part of the fingerboard setup. Am I missing something?

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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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It works great, Pete, and is easier in fact than the standard approach. I make my own 'zero-glide nut' with a method I've developed but I'm not saying one type of nut or the other is 'better' - it's not that big a deal. That being said, the zero-fret approach makes a lot of sense to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Zero Glide nut
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The whole idea behind the zero nut desgn is that the slot bottom height off the finger board can be adjusted

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